Our priority has always been to have the lowest cost so we can be comfortable with weak freight rates. A big part of having the lowest cost is maintaining the largest network, and this means growing market share.

If we don't do our job well, then there's no doubt that big, strong companies like Amazon will look into whether they can do better themselves.

Port investments entail a lot of money, and having a partner who can share the risk makes a lot of sense. Often, it makes sense to have a local partner.

It's easy to talk about digitalising things; it's quite difficult to do in a B2B environment. It's hard to digitalise that complexity.