When it comes to the recording and writing, it's still mostly Mickey and I. But now there's this whole live entity that's a whole different thing, and it seems to be where we're gaining the most popularity.

Now in a way, money is money, and if it's going to increase our audience, that's fine.

Most of our fans seem to be very intelligent people who don't stand out too much, but they're still total freaks. I like that - they're smart and sadistic, which I think is a reflection at us.

Forty minutes in front of Beck isn't really where it's at.